OK went out and did a little session Saturday morning and accidentally named two of my recievers ROV1 for the Receiver ID. I renamed one of them when downloading to ROV2 but software is not picking up the renamed file. How can I fix this? I've never done this and am a little crunched for time on this job.

Any help very much appreciated. I know it will be here in the morning.

If the software isn't picking it up, then just download one reciever, then remname it BEFORE you download the second ROV1 receiver.

If the numbers are all the same for both rovers, then, unless it's easy enough to change, just do two sessions, one each with the base and one of the rovers.

Did you rename the B, D and E file after downloading?

Or did you rename it in the receiver?

What receiver?

BTW, I am dumb, so I just name my receivers by their serial number and keep track. That way if there is ever a data problem I can connect it to specific hardware.

As John said, you can rename once the files are in Solutions. You may want to delete the files from Solutions and reload from disk. Once you get Solutions to notice the files, take some time and verify all your antenna heights, if ROV1 is Different from ROV2.


Modified By Lawrence Paul Lopresti on 4/26/2005 at 7:34 AM

Isn't that livin rather dangerously not to input the serial numbers?

My Receiver ID is the serial number. I meant I keep track of Base/Rover elsewhere. I agree it is dangerous to not use the serial number, because you can end up with the same name problems.

I thought you could change a file name in the receiver File Manager but just checked. I can't, is there some secret chant to allow me to do so?

If you beat the 1/10,000 oddss and have 2 PM2s with the same last 4 digits, mark the unit ID that you use on the unit.

I have done this myself once, if i recall correctly, you need a binary editor like UltraEdit and you have to change the receiverID in the raw file.

I am sure Phil or Linda will chime in later on.

I beleive the reciever ID is either changable or assignable.

I have had to re-input the receiver ID a couple of times since I got them(probably when I upgraded my firmware).

SO . . . if you have 2 units with the same last 4 digits . . . no problem.

What I've never done yet is to run 2 rovers with the same numbering sequence to see if A.S. will automatically re-assign new numbers.

The B file is binary, but the receiver ID is in ascii format. WordPad can open the binary file, receiver ID is in the first line, try overtyping it with insert off. That should not change anything else in the file. You should have not yet deleted the files from your receiver, but if you have make a backup copy. Editing a binary file the way I suggest can be dangerous and is definitely outside the box. The E file is also binary, but I cannot find the ID in ascii format. Is it in there in binary??
Modified By Lawrence Paul Lopresti on 4/26/2005 at 8:39 AM

You can change the RID in the receiver, but if you've logged a file with a RID of ROV1, then it is ROV1 in the Binary B file. You can change it anytime you want in the receiver, but it's still ROV1 in that session's B file.

And Solutions will absolutely gack at two different receivers with the same RID.

As I said before, you need a binary editor to change the RID in the B file, then it works.

I have been down this road and had this exact problem, I did an install in NH with a customer's new PM2s and two of the receivers were named the same.

BTW, I always use the last 4 #s of the serial for the Receiver ID.
Modified By Mike Margolis_ on 4/26/2005 at 8:53 AM

"gack"?

Lawrence,
Yes, I renamed the B D and E files after downloading, to no avail. I tried to rename it in the receiver but that doesn't seem possible. I am going serial number from here on out!

I guess I'm going to process in 2 separate jobs. Hopefully that will be good enough for this exercise.

John,

"gack" may be too technical a term to explain to you.

LOL

I just tried editing as I suggested and Solutions did indeed gack. However you can create a RINEX file, rename it, and change the receiver ID in the O file and Solutions will not gack. Before you load the RINEX delete any and all files that Soltutions created from the previous observation or move the RINEX file to a different project. since you are going to do it in two projects as you said it is worth a try. I am not sure if you can RINEX a kinematic file.
Modified By Lawrence Paul Lopresti on 4/26/2005 at 10:26 AM

Christian,

Just renaming the files won't correct the problem. The name is enbedded in the binary B file.
Paul's RINEX solution should work, but, if you wish, mail the two B and E files, and I'll fix them...or if you have UltraEdit, call me and I'll show you how to fix them yourself.

Linda
1-800-229-2400
lmalcom@thalesnavigation.com
It doesn't matter what you use for receiver ID's -- the serial numbers, your dogs' names, your ex-wives' names, etc. -- just as long as they are unique.

Interesting...The receivers keep the Name even though you erase the data you collected.

I named each, put a small sticker with the name on each unit and leave the name along. Cannot understand why you would be renaming the receivers after the first time, unless you did a "32".

I keep the names the same so I can track any problems...I also identified the antennas, cables, batteries, battery packs. That way if I encounter a problem, I can track it and isolate it. The same data is logged on my point sheets so I know what is happening after I leave the field.